It must be paying them well enough, and well as making Xbox money, otherwise no one would be interested in entering their games on to the service @Keyblade-Dan Pathetic comment. @Juanalf You did not understand or understand what was convenient to you. You just have to look at the economy outside of usa. Not to mention we have no reason to believe MS will, in any form, help these companies be better. At least when Sony & Nintendo acquire studios, at least they acquire studios they already had a close working relationship with AND/OR primarily made games only for Sony & Nintendo, OR in the case of Haven Studios & Savage Games, haven't made any games at all, thus acquiring them isn't taking away games from other platforms. . Why would they? Why are PlayStation fanboys crying over something that they've been doing for years? Sony should stay well away from GP and its model. Xbox exclusive or not is completely irrelevant at this point. Now I accept that they will likely have had a bucket load of money thrown at them in advance, but I highly doubt that it even touches the sides as to what they will eventually make. I pay for what I think it's worth it. I think you are getting caught up in console wars a bit there. Hey you want to pay 60 for this game or sign up on our competitor's service and get it for basically free? This truly shocking revelation has been hammered home through a statement that Microsoft made to UK competition regulator CMA, in which the tech juggernaut says Sony "has chosen to block" Game Pass on its platforms. . 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How can a company who just bought 2 of the biggest game publishers in the business with the sole purpose of keeping their games off Sony platforms talk about denying gamers a choice? I have a PlayStation with a PlayStation plus extra sub and a series X with gamepass. That's what is so absurd about this purchase. PlayStation would instantly become an unprofitable business and the consoles would no longer be made to run the service anyway. Hate the pretending. It would make zero sense for Sony to allow it with 3rd party games included in the service especially since they got their own subscription service for those. Saying all this talk now to make them look like the good guys for the every gamer and then when it eventually gets the green light next year there will be hundreds of games never coming to PS in the near future just like they're doing with Bethesda. @Thenewguy I doubt Sony would share the money made from subscriptions with them & Xbox players would just see how much better playstation exclusives are than their own consoles don't see why they'd want that lol. Breaking News, data & opinions in business, sports, entertainment, travel, lifestyle, plus much more. This Friday, were taking a look at Microsoft and Sonys increasingly bitter feud over Call of Duty and whether U.K. regulators are leaning toward torpedoing the Activision Blizzard deal. 785. @Would_you_kindly No I wouldn't be complaining about it because it would bring PS games to Xbox only gamers and/or other platforms to have access to some of the best games available on what you have Playstation owners would still get the 'best' console version if they only streamed their games to Xbox whilst Playstation owners get a 'downloadable, Local' experience. The port was to be captured @Balosi I'm asking myself the same question, time to unsubscribe from the feed I suppose. "Sony doesn't want competition or choice! Now if you'll excuse us, we're going to continue buying up major studios to deny Sony games!". Crossword Puzzles & Word Origins the relative popularity of UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, and how the winter season changes peoples feelings about romance and relationships. I am very happy with the offering PS has, even much that I have now sold my Series X and there can be a paradox of choice when you have Game Pass and PS Premium. Star field was coming to Sony consoles, and then after acquisition, it's now an exclusive. Common sense is to buy the games I like. Makes no sense adding Game Pass to PlayStation when they won't allow PSN or Plus onto Xbox. They are using the success of Microsoft to just buy up the gaming industry. At the rate Microsoft is buying studios the only games that will be left to buy for Playstation will be the annual The Last of Us remasters. Yes, but eventually like all monopoly cases they'll take a small hit and be fine. When will people learn that having both consoles does not mean you are not biased towards one. Developers don't make money for free, and truthfully, when you consider that there are around 500 games on the Game Pass, it's still entirely plausible that your game would be 'lost' amongst all the other competing games, and therefore any exposure would be highly limited. In usa at least. Different content, but same situation. I think you make the "GP adherent = zealot" arguement for us. It's exhausting and we all know it's going through anyway. I want the choice to play starfield on my ps5 natively. I've got over a hundred games from ps plus and I've probably only played about ten of them to the end over the past 10 years. Yes, they make a lot of money, but nobody wants to earn less. All of Sony. I'm not into instant gratification at the cost of the future, even if it's just a hobby of mine. Thank you! I still play on my PS5 more but I'll defo be playing A Plague Tale: Requiem next week on the green machine. I think you lack historical knowledge. Surely they cant seriously expect people to go along with that. You think xbox, ea, 2k, capcom, square enix etc. Common now. @Mikey856 that is your opinion. @Neither_scene Excuses, excuses. @__jamiie Sony has never bought a developer that is valued at the same price of their ENTIRE company. And if you put gp on Playstation you have 3 times that at once. That's the point. I personally prefer PlayStation when they are on their toes and have to try their hardest to win us over. Anything that brings more games to Xbox is in their interest. You say it's bad for the industry, based on what @The_Moose? If Xbox pays Sony for all lost revenue I'm positive Sony would accept it but I'm sure that Xbox, who is already loosing a ton of money on their platform, won't do that. Don't confuse Xbox and Microsoft, they are two distinct beasts @thefourfoldroot1 they don't have a platform yet. When permitted by law, a court may award an amount of money to the successful party, to be paid by the losing party, as reimbursement for the winners court costs. Everyone wants to pay 70 for new releases on their playstation and would always want ownership for their games*, *Unless of course they buy their games digitally, in which case they're actually just leasing a non transferable license, Sony isn't really concerned, they're just playing the game correctly. I meant buying everything and essentially draining the Playstation platform of content by spending. Now you might argue that Game Pass is better because of the Day One exclusives, but Sony's is in its infancy (Game Pass was not great for the first couple of years), and that also ignores the fact that Nintendo do not rely on the same games as the others, and Sony will be putting blockbusters on theirs, just not Day one @__jamiie Bungie are to remain 3rd party. @Fiendish-Beaver Our critics review new novels, stories and translations from around the world Thats good.i dont want it to be like that.just like sony putting theyre games on pc.but it is what it is.the ps5 is a amazing console.and it doesn't Need game pass.word up son. They dont care what device you play it on as long as you are playing. gamers would be facing 25-30 per month to game. disgusting development. Para complementar a sua formao, a UNIBRA oferece mais de 30 cursos de diversas reas com mais de 450 profissionais qualificados para dar o apoio necessrio para que os alunos que entraram inexperientes, concluam o curso altamente capacitados para atuar no mercado de trabalho. C1 Advanced. At the beginning of the game, he has little to no power or influence in the world and is restrained by the rules of the system he was born into. @BAMozzy They just sound a bit bitter like they want to dip into the PlayStations playerbase that didn't care enough to buy an Xbox for their service, "Sony doesn't allow Gampass on their platform! Good for you. @truerbluer - True, and studios like Sucker Punch, Bend Studio, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Game, Insomniac Games, Bluepoint, Housemarque, Media Molecule & Firesprite primarily made games just for PlayStation, the exception here is really only Insomniac Games, however Insomniac Games never found much success when they did venture away from PlayStation, FUSE was a joke thanks in large part to EA's meddling, Sunset Overdrive sold less than 2 Million Copies across Xbox & PC AND Phil Spencer chose not to greenlight Sunset Overdrive 2 DESPITE Insomniac Games wanting & willing to make it, and their VR Games through Oculus didn't leave much of an impact, the only times Insomniac Games ever saw any real TRUE success is when they were glued to the hip of Sony/PlayStation,. Ns usamos cookies e outras tecnologias semelhantes para melhorar a sua experincia, personalizar publicidade e recomendar contedo. No exclusivity? It's not silly at all I think. Given MS can effectively buy that at will (as long as Amazon, Google, etc dont enter the mix) its very important we watch carefully what MS are doing. I can have an xbox and will still think the same lol, Gamepass great value?? They can easily make a subscription service to access their games. The three year deal for cod on PlayStation is fine, after which it will be renegotiated and more than likely extended for a further three years. I don't believe in paying 70 for games in much the same way Sony don't actually believe in generations. I really dislike gamepass and what it means for the future of gaming - streaming, game ownership, economic sustainability etc. Such games as Plague Tale 2 though can still get a lot of money via Sony purchases though. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. On this episode of Small Things Often, well explain why all you need is a good enough relationship.. View Transcript. I bet they were all on this. "says the 2 trillion dollar company bankrolling Gamepass & "Gamer" Phil Spencer buying up every major 3rd party publisher they can get their hands on to remove the choice of console they can play said 3rd party IP's & force them onto xbox or presumably Gamepass & X-cloud without a necessarily a native version on PS! It will be exclusive to the Game Pass rather than on the Sony equivalent, but as gamers currently buy the game on the PlayStation, and will be able to do so in the future, how is it different? Microsoft is crushing it in games.". 'Sony is denying gamers a choice' but keeping established franchises off of PlayStation by buying up publishers somehow ISN'T denying gamers a choice? Yeah, but their tweets are just. Its not denying customer a choice (its not as if Nintendo carry game pass, are they denying their customers a choice too?) Yeah, I feel like xbox is a fake toxic friendly gaming company now. I do think Sony's stance over Activision is going to motivate Microsoft to try and push through more exclusivity deals through acquisitions and 3rd party releases though. Having Game Pass on PlayStation would mean Xbox will have to leave the console business and just become the new SEGA with streaming. There are other examples of games seeing increased sales on Switch, PS, PC etc after going to gamepass because the GP users created a buzz for the game. They don't have in-house developers. I'm sure there is money there for Sony to make, but I bet it's not enough to be worth making that move. Last gen sony was the gem of the generation. It is about a monopoly hearing and ensuring a monopoly doesnt develop that can hurt consumers. Its not like this was a hostile takeover of AB, they wanted to be aquired and Xbox was the one that made an offer they wanted. Even the Bungie example - which is probably the closest similarity - wouldn't hold water, It does feel like this could go beyond the console wars of the PS3/360 era. Self awareness doesn't cost anything. @Fiendish-Beaver They bought theirs. he just is. Streaming services like GP are only affordable if the cash is coming from somewhere other than the subscribers as Netflix are finding out. Gamepass appears to be working out great for gamers, devs, and MS. @Fiendish-Beaver I'm not denying that GP hasn't brought a lot of people to Xbox, with its pricing I'd be surprised if it didn't. @Sqush-Pare So there won't be any advantage for Sony? 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Just make your own shooter, you have a big franchises like Killzone and Resistance, or make a new one. It's the truth. In the end there is a simple solution that Xbox and PlayStation can work with. You also have to mention how sony games aren't as good as they say they are, plenty of times, like you have to convince yourself. 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No Dev is losing billions either but Xbox and its acquisitions are subsidised massively by MS, that's why my final point of Xbox being cut off from MS money would cause Xbox to dump GP because just like Sony it wouldn't be affordable. Sony have no internal studios other than those they've bought. The crisis affects them too, you know. Omnivore This reminds me when the ColecoVision had the add-on "expansion module" that let you play Atari 2600 games on it. If you want to mention Xbox, why don't you write about launching the next gen with 0 games, and releasing 2 exclusives over the next 2 years? Let Plus go on to Xbox then. Its a great deal. @MTMike87 As the AVGN said it would be lawsuits up the ass. They knew PS would say no. It annoys me how they keep trying to compare the Acti and Bethesda deals to Sony buying studios like Housemarque, Haven, and Bluepoint this year too. Microsoft starting to finally show there true greedy colors. @CapGod He has both consoles how is he TRYING to be a neutral gamer? California is a state in the Western United States, located along the Pacific Coast.With nearly 39.2 million residents across a total area of approximately 163,696 square miles (423,970 km 2), it is the most populous U.S. state and the third-largest by area. Just like how Nintendo don't want it on the switch either. Watch people try to attack Sony over it and big up MS. Gamepass on PS would suck, it would offer less then what Plus offers as no way would MS port over the likes of Halo, Gears and Forza. I'm not the one getting upset about which plastic box I have to the point I have to be passive aggressive to justify which box I ownas I have both. Screw childish console war fanboy BS what they want and are trying to do is bad for everyone and I'm sick of people acting like this awful company with more money than god and have used similar monopolistic tactics to take over other industries are some sort of plucky underdog it's a joke. And then only last week, it was shown that Game Pass on the Xbox (not PC) made near 3 billion dollars in revenue. In the majority of cases (excluding Apple of course), it's Microsoft Windows. Don't be confused as if they care about you. I'm not justifying my decision lmao. Instead of choosing which has the 'best' games, maybe you'd choose on which you can download and play locally - but you'd not have to miss out on CoD or Destiny, God of War or Gears of War, Starfield or Horizon etc - the 'best' experience may not be on your prefered brand plastic box of electronics under the TV, but at least you can still play the SAME games and not have to buy BOTH brands because half the games are on one system and the other half are on the other with a 'few' games still on both - like the Nintendo/Sega days of the 80's @Old-Red I see what youre saying. are as praised as sony? It is the competing platform. Feel free to let out a sigh in the comments section below. @Fiendish-Beaver The old its 'bad for the industry' arguement lol. basically just a go to line of ps fanboys who dont want to be classed as fanboys because they think it makes them sound impartial, @Keyblade-Dan "I cannot put into words he is much I want Microsoft to get the F K out of the gaming industry". Hello, and welcome to Protocol Entertainment, your guide to the business of the gaming and media industries. You have both, you want a muffin for being a neutral gamer? NOW whos the underdog?? It would save me wasting money and buying an Xbox when I get that Gears of War itch. Sony is just 1000% right. C1 Advanced The Gold series is a well-established exam preparation course for the Cambridge English Qualifications. But gamers will still praise what ever ms does just to spite Sony. "Oh but Sony have built such good relationships with so many developers. Apple made a deal with the devil when Microsoft offered the same type of deal with Office when facing monopoly issues in the 90s. Schulman suggests you learn the value of the old adage A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush.. This is all in service of trying to convince regulators that Microsoft's $70 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard is a good thing for the industry. @racinggamefanatic "Agreed. Both companies grasping at straws here.. not sure who looks sillier (and less honest) in the process. "The holding will call into question many other regulations that protect consumers with respect to credit cards, bank accounts, mortgage loans, debt collection, credit reports, and identity theft," tweeted Chris Peterson, a former enforcement attorney at the CFPB who is now a law Id pass regardless of what platform it was available on.I tried it briefly on PC and ended up trying to a of games without actually bothering to play them through. 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